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RELIGION, n. -  A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable.
- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
MUSINGS RE:LIGION
11/15/0
Recently one of my friends wrote:
The other day a Jehovah's witness stopped by my house and offered me a tract - I said, "No thanks, I'm in the Jehovahs Witness Protection Program", and politely shut the door.

I wonder how long she stood there trying to figure out what I meant.

I like that one. It follows my notions that since it is nigh impossible to entertain a Witness, you should at least try to entertain yourself. I'm not a big fan of doorstep or telephone solicitation, especially when it's related to something as silly as long distance phone bills or religious beliefs.

I'm not sure what I'd do should a Jehovah's Witness show up on my doorstep. It's been so long, I think they have our house blacklisted. (Could it be the year-round Halloween decorations? The only evidence that they have been nearby was a little book about god or creation or something, left in our mailbox a few months ago. We threw it in the recycling.) If they showed up this weekend, I'm thinking that I might have one of the following reactions, depending on my state of mind:

  • If I know ahead of time that there are Witni-like entities approaching the porch, I could let them knock and wait about .2 seconds for my doggie Booda to start barking. Then I'd start barking too. They'd probably see us through the curtains. This might be a good reception for *any* door-to-door salespersons.
  • I might try (hopelessly) to convert them to a very different religion, such as Old Norse Paganism, new Discordianism, or Apatheism. That might be fun. But then they might come back the next weekend. Ick.
  • I could yell, very loudly, "Everybody hide! It's the Jehovah's Witnesses!" and then run around the house frantically "looking" for a hiding place.
  • Here's one I read on a joke board :"Answer every one of their questions with 'What do you mean by that?' This might take a while, but you and your loved ones can have fun placing bets on how long it takes for them to leave."
  • I might indulge myself in a little game of CheezWiz.
Jehovah's Witnesses are way down at the bottom of my results for Speakout.com's Religion Selector, an interactive quiz that ranks your beliefs to 26 popular religions.

I used the Religion Selector in two ways. First I took the quiz paying close attention to my current personal dis-beliefs. Then I took it again, this time plugging beliefs from my fantasy religion (what I want the universe to be like) into my answers. Here is a graph of the combined results (I did the graph myself; Speakout.com lists the religions and your compatability scores).

I think Unitarian can be ignored; I feel it's a sort of catch-all salad bar religion. It's going to be at the top of a lot of people's lists.

8/22/0
Wow, it's been a while since I've been in this room. Looks pretty dusty. Whatever. I suppose I should let everyone know what's in my fickle little religion node lately. Well, first and foremost, I am flirting again with apatheism (a term which I invented years ago, but of course so have many others). I'm still fascinated with religions, in an anthropological way, but I don't think that the god question is an important one lately, and I certainly don't need a deity for my religion of "climbing and communing with trees." (I should find a name for the tree religion. any ideas? Druidism is not the right term.)

Last month I was explaining to My friend toK the general ideas of apatheism. She grabbed the bait and took it much farther than it should probably go. "We should start a Church of Apatheism!" she said. Immediately the ideas started flooding in, mostly due to a silliness brought unto us by a profound lack of sleep. It's probably one of those concept cults that I wouldn't mind turning into a reality (that is, actually trying to make converts), partly because the age old question asked by many religious leaders immediately came to mind: "I wonder if we could make any money off this religion?"

My other thoughts lately have been about various ramblings by Kory, usually while we're walking through the woods. Kory has a mechanistic approach to, well, practically everything, but also in his ideas of personal identity. I hope he writes an article about his thinkings, because nothing I write will do them justice. Suffice it to say that he makes very logical philosophical arguments that lead up to this: If there are an infinite number of universes, all slightly different from each other, then there are an infinite number of people who have your exact memories and experiences. This means that when you die in one universe, in another an exact copy of you, with all memories intact, continues to live. So in a very real sense, you would never die. This is not a nice thought, because it means that in such a paradigm all of us will go through hell and back, suffering and reveling for eternities. Eek. Maybe more on that later.

9/28/99
I'm putting this one up a bit late. Dan Efran wrote about my little comment about Bucky Fuller's quote below. I said it didn't have much to do with religion, but that it reminded me of the way I sometimes think about death. I forgot to mention what Bucky was really talking about, which was extraterrestrial life. I now can see how it can be put into a religious context quite easily. Anywise, Dan had some interesting points:
On the contrary, I think it has everything to do with religion. The key is to realize that religion has (at least) two major components.

One the intellectual confrontation of the great unanswerable questions, like "are we alone?" and "what comes after life?" and "who's in charge? and "is she watching right now?"

The second is a spiritual or emotional sensation. For example, a feeling of being a part of the world,  or of being guided by an external force...or simply the emotional shock of understanding how deep those intellectual questions really are, and how far you are from answering them.

For example, I was recently flipping through a biology textbook, looking for interesting microphotographs. Reading a few sections, I was struck again by the incredible machine-like efficiency of living things. Consider the
ribosome, which reads DNA sequences and builds corresponding protein molecules, which then carry out various tasks in the cell. Well, ribosomes in some life forms are as small as 55 proteins plus three molecules of ribosomal RNA (which are big--they account for more than half its weight). It marches along a piece of DNA like a zipper pull, building up a chain of proteins by grabbing the ones with the right labels stuck to them, cutting the finished product loose at the end-of-file mark. I don't know what that says about the existence of God (though if she does exist, it says she's quite a hacker), but...well, it's staggering. It provokes awe (an overwhelming feeling of reverence, fear, etc., according to my dictionary).

So to me, the Fuller quote is speaking about the relationship between these two components of religion.

Footnote: The other things that may be critical elements of religion include: a moral code; rituals; community; guilt....

Different thread which has little to do with the above -- rereading Dan's email just reminded me of the people who treat DNA as a god, the ones who tell me that they are compelled to procreate, because "that is our purpose in life, to spread our genetic code." I don't think so. Replicating may be what life forms happen to do (along with passing gas, eating, etc.), but that does not make it a purpose in life. It is not our purpose in life any more than it is the purpose of a prion (a most certainly not-alive self replicating protein). The DNA "god" is unthinking; it's a program that makes more DNA. If more DNA stops being made, the great god DNA won't know or care. Also, I'd like to reiterate that I don't consider Dan to be that kind of DNA worshipper, even though his name is a coincidental anagram. Spooky, isn't it?
9/17/99
While I was researching Gnosticism for the Hankisms page, I came across interesting stuff like this:
But what sort is this God? First he maliciously refused Adam from eating of the tree of knowledge, and, secondly, he said "Adam, where are you?" God does not have foreknowledge? Would he not know from the beginning? And afterwards, he said, "Let us cast him out of this place, lest he eat of the tree of life and live forever." Surely, he has shown himself to be a malicious grudger! And what kind of God is this? For great is the blindness of those who read, and they did not know him. And he said, "I am the jealous God; I will bring the sins of the fathers upon the children until three (and) four generations." And he said, "I will make their heart thick, and I will cause their mind to become blind, that they might not know nor comprehend the things that are said." But these things he has said to those who believe in him and serve him!
(from the Nag Hammadi texts, Testimony of Truth)
The reason that it's interesting, at least to me, is that it was written in 400 AD at the latest. People back then were asking many of the same questions that are being asked today of the Bible. These people, the Gnostics, had answered some of these questions to fit their religion, as many others have done since then. Atheists may ask similar questions and conclude "such a god is not worth believing in." The Gnostics, however, concluded that such a deity existed, and furthermore that "he was a lying demon and not God at all."  That answered a lot of other questions (for the Gnostics) about why this world is such a messed up place, why we die, and so on. It's no wonder that they were eventually labeled heretics by the disciples of St. Paul. Instead of blaming Man for the world's troubles, gnostics blamed Demiurge, the false god, and claimed that Jesus and Mary Magdelene were sent from the real God. More about the Nag Hammadi texts and Gnosticism can be found at the Gnostic Society Library.
9/15/99
A conversation from Snow Crash, a book by Neal Stephenson:
"Hey, I went to church every week in high school. I sang in the choir."

"I know. That's exactly the problem. Ninety-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches has nothing whatsoever with the actual religion. Intelligent people all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being intelligent in people's minds."

Sounds good to me. Luckily nothing is mentioned yet about the other one percent. Implied, sure, but that's all. I haven't finished the novel yet, but I have a feeling religion will figure more prominently towards the climax. Could be wrong though. Pretty good story so far.

In case you need a religio-census (or as close as you can get to one these days) www.adherents.com has some estimates for all of the major religions. The site also has an incredible amount of the world's religions indexed and briefly described. You know it's an incredible amount when they include Discordianism.


8/1/99
I found an interesting site today, it's called And Adam Knew Eve and it purports to be a "dictionary of sex in the Bible", but it is a hypertext encyclopedia, really, and a good one, too. I spent the morning reading about the old days -- you know, giants and 600 year old people and such. Good stuff.

7/27/99
A reader comments:
I can't say this with absolute certainty, but you seem to be describing something that is eerily similar to what I've started to experience lately whilst walking amongst the oaks.  I don't feel that I could pass on such experiences to others either (I'm not sure I want to--it would feel like religious advertisement).  My reasons for saying this are a little different from yours though.  It seems to me that words serve as a poor medium to express concepts and experiences that lie fully in the emotional-intuitive realm.  Words are fine for expressing "concrete" events that register as sensory experience or for expressing ideas that deal with logic and "linear" thought.  But emotion, passion, and "gut feeling" frequently are too slippery and varied to nail down with the stroke of a pen (or keyboard).  There are things I feel which words haven't yet been invented for.  To say that, "it seems as though the forest speaks to me" is to loose the heart of the experience.
The comment came shortly (and fortuitously) after I read this quote elsewhere:
"Some mon just deal wit' information. An' some mon, him deal wit' the concept of truth. An' den some deal wit' magic. Information flow aroun' ya, an truth flow right at ya. But magic, it flow t'rough ya"
-Nernelly, Jamaican Bush Doctor
There may be some truth to that information regarding magic (yuk yuk). Saying "the forest speaks to me" is really just translating an ineffable feeling into verbal information, which causes it to stray from the truth. Maybe I should put it into less definable words: "The Trees, they love me. I can feel this."

On a somewhat tongue in cheek related vein, Fade to Black put up a funny parody: the most popular religions rated by Consumer Reports. Since they wanted to use impartial judges, they picked "South American Aborigines."

7/23/99
parable I've heard before reared its header in alt.discordia recently:
A man was killed in a car crash. Upon waking, he found his grandfather standing over him offering to take his hand. His grandfather looked just like he had remembered him from his youngest days. 

"Where are we Grandfather?"

"This is heaven."

As the man looked around he saw all manner of people, they walked past a smiling Buddhist monk, he saw a Shi-ite holy man laughing and talking with a Hassidic Rabbi. Over in the trees he saw a Wiccan and a Navajo Medicine man. But something inescapable seemed odd.

Finally, they came to a high wall; he could hear singing from the other side. "Grandfather," he asked, "what is this?"

"Shhh not so loud, it's the Christians... they think they are the only ones here."

It reminded me of a rant I vented yesterday, about my discovery that this senator guy was trying to squelch Wiccan ceremonies at military bases. What an idiot. The rant was in response (in part) to this email response that was sent to me:
How many new (to the US) religions should we accomodate if each one brings along public demonstrations like these?  I don't like the idea of infringing on anyones rights and I certainly would never want to force only 4 religions on people, but where can we draw a line so religious organizations aren't just wacko cults taking advantage of 'religious' status to have big bonfires or smoke dope or walk naked in the street...?
Here is part of my response:
OK, first of all, Christianity *is* a wacko cult. Secondly, *all* religions, regardless of wackiness, are to be treated equally. If we were conservative enough to follow some of our founding fathers' ideas, no religion would have precedence over the others. Thirdly, the Wiccan religion is gaining enough popularity that there is a significant population, significant enough to demand recognition and significant enough to scare the Bejeezus out of people like Sen. whatsisname who are superstitious and afraid of "witches". Fourthly, when people are finally allowed to walk naked on the street and smoke dope, life will be incredibly more fantastic than it is at the present left-over puritan level that it is stinking of. End of rant.

The military should either accept that there are other religions and allow their mumbo jumbo, or deny the right of "acceptable" (tr. tolerated by the christian monopoly) religions and stop allowing *all* practices (including the christian mumbo jumbo) on military bases.

Please forgive the spelling and grammar; I was, after all, ranting.
7/16/99
"The ultimate end of any ideology is totalitarianism. Today, the religious right and the academic left seem to be in some kind of competition to brutalize the gene pool. As agents of homogenization, both sides are committed to institutionalized mediocrity. They want to re-create the world in their image, and re-create society to fit the contours of their fears."
-- Tom Robbins
"Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering."
-- Buckminster Fuller
Found these quotes today. The second one doesn't have much to do with religion, but it reminded me of the way I feel about death.  What happens after I die?  Seems to me that there are two possible answers, if we ignore details: Either there's something left of me, or there isn't. Each answer is fascinating to contemplate, and either situation has its advantages and disadvantages, too. I've been contemplating this issue because of recent funerals for friends and relatives that I've attended or missed.

The main problem I have with funerals is the advertisements. Some minister, often one who barely knew the deceased, will stand up and practically ignore whoever the funeral is for in the first place. Instead he'll talk about heaven, Jesus, faith, God, blah blah. I want to hear people's memories of our Dear Departed, not advertisements.

6/7/99
What does "Catholic flavored Guilt" taste like after one has shucked Catholicism? The best explanation I can come up with (lately) is that it's kind of like peer pressure without the peer. At this point in my life, it is a small, almost insignificant amplifier of those usual guilty feelings that I get when I've done something against my moral "rulebook". OK, I don't really have a moral rulebook.  Unfortunately for me, I often don't see the error in my ways until after I've had a few of those ways.  I guess one of these days I might get around to actually writing up some of my own "commandments", but I doubt it would be something worth showing anyone else, since as I've said before, morality is a personal thing. blah blah blather.
2/23/99
I guess my present thoughts run something like this: If there is one God (or, to coin an American Indian phrase that I really like, an "Almighty Something"), and this God is as sneaky as this God appears to be (at least to me), then I will not be able to find such a God by looking with other people -- at church for instance. Most people are looking for a different "Almighty Something" than I am, and going to church would cut in on my stalking time. The Almighty Something is such a personal, elusive, ineffable greatness, that I figure I can only find It through personal, elusive, ineffable tactics, if It's here. But that is not said to detract from churchgoers. Whatever works...

Whenever I hear someone say "Life's not fair" I am forced to comment, "compared to what?" Life is a system with so many variables and so much form; it is impossible to cheat Life or be cheated by Life. To say that "Life is not fair" implies that we are competing in some way against Life. I don't think that is possible, when we are so much a part of the game. It's like saying, "Chess isn't fair to the pawn."  Likewise, I find it difficult to listen to people blaming their fortune or fallout on God. If God is so incomprehensibly part and parcel of even more than space-time, how can we do anything but trust It to be the way It is? I doubt very much that God punishes (or rewards). It is too primitive a concept, punishment. Perhaps it is better to say that "the Almighty Something delivers."
 

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